Bishop Hill Sensitivity analysis
Oct 23, 2011 Climate: other Hilary Ostrov is taking some potshots at poor old Peter Gleick, who seems to have made himself look a bit foolish by jumping up and down accusing Donna LaF of lying and then failing to provide any evidence of such lies.
I have my own little anecdote on this subject too. You will recall that it was suggested some time ago that Gleick had written his review of the Delinquent Teenager without actually having read the book. At the time I thought I'd ask if this was true, so I sent him a tweet. This is the subseqent exchange.
Bishop Hill: @PeterGleick Did you really review Donna's book without reading it?
Peter Gleick: I've read it. Ugh. If I could have given it 0 stars on Amazon, i would have.
Bishop Hill: Are you disputing the facts or the interpetation?
Peter Gleick: Yes.
At this point, Barry Woods joined in.
Barry Woods: Bit puzzled by that…@Adissentient asked if you dispute facts OR interpretation of Donna's book? Facts seem factual 2 me?
Peter Gleick: No, spending more time reviewing this piece of crap is a waste of MY time and electrons.
At this point he appears to have blocked me from following him on Twitter - I know there are glitches in the system, but I'm still blocked three days later, so I'm pretty sure that he has genuinely put a block in place.
He does seem like a sensitive soul.
Reader Comments (61)
@LC
No-one suggested Zed be excluded. I did suggest she should buzz off and not come back. I think you should grasp the difference.
And if you seriously have any thought of learning anything from her (other than snark and silliness) then you should perhaps recall the aphorism about Zsa Zsa Gabor's ninth marriage:-
"The triumph of hope over experience".
The Troll does not need banning, just needs ignoring so she cannot move threads away from Original topics to her topics. Same goes for anyone who supports her by feeding her with fodder.
Back on topic, Gleick also has another review of a book on Amazon, he has never read that book either.
@diogenes et al
My point is Reiter and Morner served on the IPCC. Their accounts of their experiences support that fact, they don't debunk it at all.
I agree with Les Johnson I would be surprised if she didn't know that Reiter and Morner were part of the IPCC at one time. But she has published a book that clearly suggests the opposite. That raises the obvious question are we being deliberately misled by Donna Laframboise? I don't know but I'm not inclined to look favourably on her characterisation of the IPCC in the light of this .
Steve Mosher suggested at Lucia's that Lucia redirect comments from known diverters (unusually vapid trolls) to a mirrored site which would display all comments including theirs, but everyone else would see the first site which would not include the troll comments. The result would be that the troll would see his/her comments but would never get any reaction.
To not provide a reaction is to extinguish a behavior, if I remember my Fred Skinner correctly.
Lucia's response was that it was maybe more work than it would be worth.
It may "clearly suggest the opposite" to you, but that is your opinion. It does not "clearly suggest the opposite ( that she did not know ).
@Zed
" Shutting you out, and refusing to play your game, doesn't mean he was thinking about you more than 1 second after the block was set up."
Usually followed by "La La La La" ?
Hi hengist, qthe strawnman you have alluded to doesn't exist perhaps you've got the reference wrong. In the meantime can we deal with the fact that Ms. Laframbroise doesn't say that Reiters et al weren't contributors to theI. IPCC.
Hengist...
Try reading the quote I supplied for you. Morner is no fan of the IPCC. He thinks they are in the business of fabricating stories. Gray has no time for the IPCC. neither has Reiter. Try to assemble your contrarian world-view in somne kindergarten where you will not have to deal with adults.
"The triumph of hope over experience".
I believe that is from the great Dr. Johnson (as the definition of a second marriage). If so, Zsa Zsa is older than I thought...
James
ZDB - "The guy is trying to increase global water access. He has to decide how to use his time."
Maybe he could spend less time on Amazon.com then ?
ZDB,
"The guy is trying to increase global water access. He has to decide how to use his time."
This would be perfectly valid - if Dr Gleick didn't post a review on Amazon. The fact he did indicates that he does have the time and interest. The additional fact of his basically slandering the author without providing any substanciation to his review claims makes his subsequent failure to defend his viewpoint appear cowardly.