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Wednesday
Aug242011

CLOUD results published tomorrow

Nigel Calder writes:

Long-anticipated results of the CLOUD experiment at CERN in Geneva appear in tomorrow’s issue of the journal Nature (25 August). The Director General of CERN stirred controversy last month, by saying that the CLOUD team’s report should be politically correct about climate change (see my 17 July post below). The implication was that they should on no account endorse the Danish heresy – Henrik Svensmark’s hypothesis that most of the global warming of the 20th Century can be explained by the reduction in cosmic rays due to livelier solar activity, resulting in less low cloud cover and warmer surface temperatures.

Willy-nilly the results speak for themselves, and it’s no wonder the Director General was fretful.

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Reader Comments (11)

It should be noted that Nature didn't publish a solar science paper from 2005 until late 2010 except for;

"Variations in solar luminosity and their effect on the Earth's climate"
by P. Foukal, C. Fröhlich, H. Spruit & T. M. L. Wigley (2006)

Bolded by me.

Aug 24, 2011 at 7:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterFergalR

This puts the cat amongst the pigeons!

Aug 24, 2011 at 7:56 PM | Unregistered CommenterLord Beaverbrook

Just got this blockbuster email alert myself from Calder. Its been a long long wait. Prior to Copenhagen, David Cameron had a headline blog on the importance of the Copenhagen Summit, here

http://blog.conservatives.com/index.php/2009/11/27/the-copenhagen-summit-is-of-historic-importance/

I sent in a respectful comment warning him of the possibility that the CERN CLOUD experiment might make his unbridled support for the current climate paradigm something he might live to regret. It was deleted.

Aug 24, 2011 at 8:00 PM | Unregistered CommenterPharos

This cannot be ignored by the MSM and politicians. At the very least the GCMs will need to be reprogrammed and redesigned.
I listened to the very amiable D-G of CERN at the Hay festival. He refused to engage in a question about CLOUD and his answer to the question "what if the Higgs' isn't found at these energies" was 'we are already putting our case for a bigger and better accelerator' or words to that effect.
A very frustrating long period for Svensmark and Calder and so pleasing that they have been vindicated - twice.

Aug 24, 2011 at 8:24 PM | Unregistered CommenterG. Watkins

"Variations in solar luminosity and their effect on the Earth's climate"
by P. Foukal, C. Fröhlich, H. Spruit & T. M. L. Wigley (2006)
Bolded by me. -- FergalR

The principal author is well known in British mathematical circles for his famous Root Minus One function.

Aug 24, 2011 at 9:18 PM | Unregistered Commenterjorgekafkazar

Tomorrow there will be a whole new group of scientists who look at the response of the climate "scientist" such as the New Scientist delusional piece and ... whereas we have grown used to their corruption, these CERN scientists aren't. They really will believe that as "scientists", the climategate team will simply accept their results and incorporate them into their work.

Instead they will find denial, obfuscation even malicious and vindictive actions against the "deniers" at CERN. Most sceptics don't even notice this abysmal behaviour any more. But those at CERN will still be working under the delusion that climate "science" is open to the evidence, open to rational argument, that they will obviously change their theories in response to proven science

But if the New Scientist article is anything to go by, CERN is in for a rude awakening as it finds itself labelled as "denialist anti-science central".

Aug 24, 2011 at 9:35 PM | Unregistered CommenterMike Haseler

I await the prompt attention to this, of the BBC, Guardian, and the UK Government's Chief Scientific Advisor.

How long will I have to wait?

Aug 24, 2011 at 10:39 PM | Unregistered Commentergolf charley

This cannot be ignored by the MSM and politicians.

Just watch. Do not confuse science with politics.

How long will I have to wait?
Don't hold your breath is my suggestion, Charlie.

Aug 25, 2011 at 6:02 AM | Unregistered CommenterDon Pablo de la Sierra

I see Pallab Gosh of the BBC is already getting the usual suspects to rubbish the CERN results. The central premise is that doesn't mean that much and there are other factors at play. CAGW is alive and well.

Aug 25, 2011 at 9:12 AM | Unregistered Commentermactheknife

Mike Haseler:

CERN is in for a rude awakening as it finds itself labelled as "denialist anti-science central".

Using the World Wide Web, invented by Tim Berners-Lee in 1990 at er, CERN.

I think they're going to have a job. But thank God also for Boulby and other non-Big Science alternatives to CERN, just in case.

Aug 25, 2011 at 12:23 PM | Unregistered CommenterRichard Drake

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Mar 25, 2012 at 4:14 AM | Unregistered Commenterqrcecg qrcecg

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